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On Why I Hate Conn’s

My credit sucks, okay? Really badly.

I’m trying to improve it, but part of the problem with improving your credit is that you need to get some in the first place to improve it. To get credit you have to have credit. My brain hurts.

Anyway, because we’re moving into the new place we need to buy a refrigerator. I was debating going to one of the rental places just until I had enough saved to buy one. On a whim, I applied for credit at Conn’s website.

The next day during lunch I received a phone call from their credit department telling me I had a $1000 credit line which pleased me to no end! I could get a refrigerator, then once I paid that off, turn around and get a washer and a dryer. Plus I’d be rebuilding my credit at the same time.

Just to keep tabs here, we’re talking at least $1200-1500 worth of merchandise right off the bat within 3-4 months, plus much more — we’ll eventually need a new dishwasher, a stove, lawnmower, etc.

Conn’s sales “representatives” (and I use that word loosely) work for commission. Every sale they make they get a cut of, so of course walking into the place I was preparing for the “vulture” syndrome of places that are commission-based.

As we walked to the door we witness–no lie–two Sales Vultures flipping a coin to see who got our sale. We ended up with a somewhat nice lady who at first seemed well enough, but every second I spent with the commission buzzard led me to believe otherwise.

First it was her “small talk.” She asked me a question about what I’m needing a new refrigerator for, and when I told her that I was moving into a new house it was like I wasn’t even speaking at all. She did this later while we sat filling out paperwork, and I mentioned that I was enjoying the “Lois & Clark: The Adventures of Superman” series on their TV’s. Again, like I wasn’t even speaking. After that I just stopped speaking with her about anything but my paperwork.

Okay, getting back to the problem at hand. I gave her all the paperwork the credit guy told me to bring. After a few minutes of fumbling around on her computer (I swear to god this was her first day or something), she went and talked to the manager for about 30 minutes with no updates.

Then she came back and asked me to give her practically my whole life story. Personal references, previous employers, previous residences, my first born child, the pinky on my left hand, and a digital print of my eyeball. I obliged, begrugingly.

2 hours later I still had no refrigerator, and they were still debating every line on my paperwork. She would say “Just 5 more minutes,” which would turn into 30 minutes. Each time she just sat there fumbling on her computer, ignoring any response I gave her.

Dying of hunger (since we had been there for 2 1/2 hours for what should have taken less than an hour), we just left the paperwork with the inept woman and went to dinner before all the restaurants closed.

Today I got no less than 5 phone calls between the creditor and the stupid saleswoman, asking for more and more and more information. They didn’t like that my cell phone was prepaid, so they asked for another line or a home phone. Then the woman actually ASKED me if I could get a land-line phone instead of a cell phone. I only responded “Yes I could, but I’m not GOING TO. I have a cell phone.”

Then they asked if I could supply someone else’s phone bill contract instead of mine. I asked “This is my credit app, doesn’t it all have to match my name?” She explained that her manager would “accept” it. I was already uncomfortable with the whole situation at that point, and that last line sounded not only bad, but also illegal.

I told her I’d call her back, then about 10 minutes later I called back and let into the woman. I told her how what should have been a simple process turned into a nightmare experience and I was feeling uncomfortable with her and her whole company. I told her to rip up my credit app and never contact me again, I would be purchasing my appliances through their competitor.

Now I understand that credit applications can be a lengthy process, but it wasn’t just the information she was wanting. It was the fact that she wasn’t paying attention to anything I was saying (even correcting her typing mistakes on the computer), and that she was willing to do anything–even illegal or amoral–to get her precious sale on nothing but a $400 refrigerator.

CONN’S MANAGEMENT, If you are reading/listening: you need to train your employees in the proper LEGAL way to deal with customers. You have turned a potential long-time customer into an enemy, and it’s an enemy with a very LOUD voice on the internet.

Seriously, get your shit together.

posted on October 2nd, 2008 @ 4:34 pm by Sean Loyless (Haggis) | This article has been viewed 6,865 times.

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  1. X Says:

    Sales Commission + Lines of Credit = Bad Idea

    I've never liked the idea, never will….unless I'm getting the commission. XD

  2. Sean McGee Says:

    Sean, There's a reason why it's called “Conn's”. This isn't the first nightmare story I've heard about them. They're notorious for this kind of stuff. :( Sorry you had to find out the hard way.

  3. Haggis Says:

    Strangely, my first experience wasn't this bad, but I was buying the appliance outright and online for that matter. The whole thing was just completely ridiculous. I'm not surprised they are closing stores right and left with this kind of behavior.

  4. Radek M. Gadek Says:

    I have had bad experiences with commission based sales persons. One particular case included me buying a car. The sales person was behaving similarily to the lady that serviced you, but he was more erratic. He implied that he needed certain types of information for the Department of Homeland Security in order to thwart terrorist activity. He needed my alternate phone numbers and an email address. Horrible salesmanship.

    I ended up leaving and writing with a complaint to the Toyota dealership and Toyota U.S. Headquarters. I received a complimentary rebate offer to buy my vehicle about a week later. Let's just say it was too good to pass up.

    Great post.

    Radek of the Criminal Justice Online Education Blog

  5. Heard It A Thousand Times Says:

    From an inside perspective I can tell you from directly on the front lines how uncommon the scenario. I am a Conns employee (not sales). I hear and witness so much illegalities and turning a blinds eye. I have reported the law breakers only to find out that no action has been taken. It is just as well that you did not get that refrigerator. If you had any problems with it, the service department would have thrown it into the Bermuda Triangle. Customers go months and sometimes more than a year without their merchandise “waiting on a part”. I'm sorry for your experience but thankful you didn't get in deeper.

  6. Haggis Says:

    Wow, thanks for commenting! It's great to see someone from “inside” confirm my suspicious. I talked with a former Conn's employee when I went to Rent-a-Center for my fridge, and they pretty much said the same things. I'm truly amazed they are still in business.

  7. Haggis Says:

    Department of Homeland Security, really? For buying a CAR? That's so illegal in so many ways I don't even know where to begin. At least you got a deal out of the schmuck in the end run. I think the days of commission based sales should be over with, especially if the end result are experiences like ours.

  8. Melissa Says:

    I go through Pacific Sales. I got a good package deal and they don't work on commission. Every single time I go there and ask stupid questions, they are super polite and they know what they're talking about instead of running back and forth to the computer. They are also super honest too. I was looking at a package deal and one was $650.00 more and I asked what the difference was and the sales guy told me that the more expensive one tends to accumulate fingerprints and has a self cleaning action to the stove and he said if I have self cleaning and never use it, then it's not worth buying the higher priced package. They also guarantee their low prices or you get the competitor's price plus 10% off. If you have one around you, I'd seriously go through them.

  9. joe Says:

    hold it, everybody. The commission structure at Conn's is 1 to 3 percent. Which means the lady who was knocking herself out trying to get the credit approved through Conn's archaic system was doing nothing more than trying to help you. She would have made about $4 to $12 on the 2 1/2 hour plus long sale. On the high side, that averages out at about $4.60/hour. She wasn't trying to give you a hard time. There were simply lots of requirements by the credit dept to approve a high risk customer.

    My guess is the loser of the coin toss was the one who had to take your order.

  10. Haggis Says:

    Joe, my main problem wasn't the fact that she was attempting to get a sale, it was her approach and the unprofessionalism I got off her and the entire staff of that store.

    I assumed by “Pre-Approval” after I had already submitted a credit application meant that I would not have had to gone through the extended process. At no time during the entire experience were either her or her manager clear about what was going on. Any attempt I made to ask questions or respond to her were completely ignored. She was only concerned about the sale.

  11. Conn"s latest VICTIM Says:

    Avoid Conn's at all cost. After a reduction in income being continuosly harrassed by Conn's financial arm I decided to do all I can to keep others from falling prey to this Beaumont, TX based company, (many locations in TX and elsewhere). After finally working through a plan to get the account up-to-date, re-aged (they make alot of money of this process) their collection department calls you the day after your due date mulitple times. They do not keep their word. After sending in multiple requests to only be contacted by mail, they continue to call. Today I am filing a complaint with the FTC. These people are ruthless.

  12. Joel Says:

    I used to work with Conn's. I'm really sorry to read about the problems that you have with a salesperson. Let me explain, Conn's owns 2 credit companies, one its call CCC (Conn's Credit Corporation) that work with people that has credit score 560 and above and the second one its OFC (Oportunity Financial Company) that work with 560 credit score and below.

    With CCC they will ask you for 16% at the most.

    With OFC they need 3 papers to fax

    1. Phone Proof
    – They need a phone to contact you in case you dont make the payments
    – They need a landline or a cellphone( it has to be a contract, NO PREPAID)
    – It's has to have NAME, ADDRESS and DATE (Within 30 days)
    – If you use a cellphone, they may need 1 or 2 yrs proof of residence depending on your credit

    2. Resindence Proof
    – Any bill that is mailed to you monthly, that has your NAME, ADDRESS and DATE (WIthin 30 days)
    – If you have a land line and it's under you name they can used for PHONE and RESIDENCE PROOF

    3. Income Proof
    – A Check Stub with NAME and DATE(Within 30 days)
    – Or a Bank Statment with deposits on it (NAME, ADDRESS and DATE(Within 30 days))

    Once you have this information available, they will required 3 references and the down payment will be from a 40% to a 16% of the product

    You may think that it's a look of stuff, but you will need it if you have bad credit. This was your situation and the problems was the salesperson not Conn's. You rigth, they need to train better to the salespersons.

    From the service deparment theres no much that I can say. They will sold you that they have their own service deparment and actually the service its one of the 6 resons to shop at Conn's, It's funy. I had too many customers complain about the service but theres nothing that me as a salesperson can do to hurry the service, not even the manager can give you a new product if yours broke. Its totally up to the service deparment. But thats another history.

    The person that was complaining about calls because he was late on the payments, I'm sorry my friend but if you take something out on credit and sign a contract that your gonna pay for the product, YOU HAVE TO PAY, IT IS NOT A GIFT FROM CONN'S TO YOU, I don't understand your complain if you are the one that is not doing what you sign.

  13. mg Says:

    I hate Conn's because they wanted me to pay 50% down on a lawn mower for 179.99 plus a 3 year warranty for 89.99, plus tax and finance charge. That would have been almost a 150.00 down to pay up front for a freaking lawn mower, so I closed out my account and went to Walmart and bought me a brand new one for 131.26 with free 3 warranty. Why I really really hate them. My account is current, never been late, in fact I am a month ahead on my payments. They never told me before I sat down to get the freaking lawn mower that there was a change on the policy. Your basically re-applying, regardless if you have an open account an excellent credit history with them. So i wasted 45 minutes of my time and walked out pissed off. I could wish they go bankrupt but its not their employees fault that Conns is stupid. Only thing positive, I don't have an account with them anymore. Blessing in diguise.

  14. mg Says:

    Almost forgot. I only wanted that freaking lawn mower to build up my credit. First two times I purcahse my items, went smoothly. Thought it was kinda of odd, the first time i did my application, no documentation, or driver liscense was required. I was in and out in less then 20 minuts with a digital camera plus some extras. The 2nd time I went, they asked for extra info, which I didnt mind. They had trouble with my application because the phone I use was under my sisters name. But the sales lady was extremely nice and i was finally approved and got my mp3 player. This was going to be my 3rd time to purchae and item. I honestly thought i would just walk in, pay my 20% down like I did before and walk out, happy. The sales guy that was helping me was extremely nice. He was sorry that they were asking for all that info and didnt understand why. Anyways i thanked him paid off my account and left

  15. rkettrey Says:

    I HATE CONNS TOO . THERE SALES MEN WANT TO FIGHT EACH OTHER FOR A SALE , AND THEY IF YOU FILL OUT A APPLICATION BE READY TO PUT DOWN A LARGE DOWN PAYMENT IF YOU PICK A PRICEY ITEM WE HAD TO PUT DOWN 1,500. DOWN FOR ITEMS THAT COST , ALL THERE SALES PEOPLE ARE CREEPY AND TRY ANYTHING TO GET YOU APPROVED AND MAKE A SALE . BEWARE OF CONNS .WE WOULD REATHER RENT TO OWN BECAUSE CONNS TELLS YOU YOU CAN SAVE MONEY BY GOING TO THEM INSTEAD THERE CHEAPER THAN THE RENTAL PLACES BUT WHEN WE GOT OUR PAYMENT BOOK IN THE MAIL WE WERE SHOCKED TO SEE THAT WE WERE GOING TO HAVE TO PAY DOUBLE THE AMOUNT THE ITEMS COST, AND IT CAME OUT TO COST THE SAME AS RENTING EATHERWAY. THE GOOD THING ABOUT RENTING IS WHEN MY TV NEEDS REPAIR THEY FIX IT OR REPLACE IT. AND CONNS TALKS PEOPLE INTO BUYING A VERY HIGH WARRENTYS AND YOU ARE LUCKY IF THEY EVEN FIX OR REPLACE THE ITEM WHEN THEY BREAK DOWN. I WONDER IF THEY SELL REFURB ELECTRONICS OUR ELECTRONICS LOOK LIKE THEY BEEN REFERBISHED .

  16. rkettrey Says:

    I HATE CONNS TOO . THERE SALES MEN WANT TO FIGHT EACH OTHER FOR A SALE , AND THEY IF YOU FILL OUT A APPLICATION BE READY TO PUT DOWN A LARGE DOWN PAYMENT IF YOU PICK A PRICEY ITEM WE HAD TO PUT DOWN 1,500. DOWN FOR ITEMS THAT COST , ALL THERE SALES PEOPLE ARE CREEPY AND TRY ANYTHING TO GET YOU APPROVED AND MAKE A SALE . BEWARE OF CONNS .WE WOULD REATHER RENT TO OWN BECAUSE CONNS TELLS YOU YOU CAN SAVE MONEY BY GOING TO THEM INSTEAD THERE CHEAPER THAN THE RENTAL PLACES BUT WHEN WE GOT OUR PAYMENT BOOK IN THE MAIL WE WERE SHOCKED TO SEE THAT WE WERE GOING TO HAVE TO PAY DOUBLE THE AMOUNT THE ITEMS COST, AND IT CAME OUT TO COST THE SAME AS RENTING EATHERWAY. THE GOOD THING ABOUT RENTING IS WHEN MY TV NEEDS REPAIR THEY FIX IT OR REPLACE IT. AND CONNS TALKS PEOPLE INTO BUYING A VERY HIGH WARRENTYS AND YOU ARE LUCKY IF THEY EVEN FIX OR REPLACE THE ITEM WHEN THEY BREAK DOWN. I WONDER IF THEY SELL REFURB ELECTRONICS OUR ELECTRONICS LOOK LIKE THEY BEEN REFERBISHED .

  17. rkettrey Says:

    i wished we had paid cash we would of been paid off buy now not two years from now.

  18. rkettrey Says:

    I HATE CONNS TOO . THERE SALES MEN WANT TO FIGHT EACH OTHER FOR A SALE , AND THEY IF YOU FILL OUT A APPLICATION BE READY TO PUT DOWN A LARGE DOWN PAYMENT IF YOU PICK A PRICEY ITEM WE HAD TO PUT DOWN 1,500. DOWN FOR ITEMS THAT COST , ALL THERE SALES PEOPLE ARE CREEPY AND TRY ANYTHING TO GET YOU APPROVED AND MAKE A SALE . BEWARE OF CONNS .WE WOULD REATHER RENT TO OWN BECAUSE CONNS TELLS YOU YOU CAN SAVE MONEY BY GOING TO THEM INSTEAD THERE CHEAPER THAN THE RENTAL PLACES BUT WHEN WE GOT OUR PAYMENT BOOK IN THE MAIL WE WERE SHOCKED TO SEE THAT WE WERE GOING TO HAVE TO PAY DOUBLE THE AMOUNT THE ITEMS COST, AND IT CAME OUT TO COST THE SAME AS RENTING EATHERWAY. THE GOOD THING ABOUT RENTING IS WHEN MY TV NEEDS REPAIR THEY FIX IT OR REPLACE IT. AND CONNS TALKS PEOPLE INTO BUYING A VERY HIGH WARRENTYS AND YOU ARE LUCKY IF THEY EVEN FIX OR REPLACE THE ITEM WHEN THEY BREAK DOWN. I WONDER IF THEY SELL REFURB ELECTRONICS OUR ELECTRONICS LOOK LIKE THEY BEEN REFERBISHED .

  19. rkettrey Says:

    i wished we had paid cash we would of been paid off buy now not two years from now.

  20. rkettrey Says:

    stay away from conns they are the worst place to deal with the worst . i have rented tvs for years and let me tell you conns says they are cheaper than renting but there not they cheat you bad with high am sure they train there employees to conn to . beware of this place .i wish i had read all the complaints before went here.just beware of this place and the referb stuff .

  21. Conns Employee Says:

    I work at Conn's. First off I will say I feel very overworked and underpaid. Now that said I will comment on your credit story. First off conns has 2 forms of credit CCC, Conn's Credit, and OFC which is used for lower crediit scores and goes through a credit company outside of Conn's. Now when your credit is above about a 550 you are CCC you do not have to provide additional references, employment history, etc. But if you have a credit score below 550 you move to OFC credit which does require additional information.

    Now let me ask you this. If someone tried to get something out on credit with you with a score lower than 550 would you want to just hand them thousands of dollars worth of merchandise which your company paid for? Doubtful. You may have to provide additional information, but if your credit score is low enough to require additional information the only people who are going to finance you are rent-a-center or Aaron's so quit complaining that someone gives you a hard time GIVING you merchandise when your history shows you have a hard time actually paying for it. Jackass.

  22. Sean Loyless Says:

    You clearly did not read the story. I was only buying a refrigerator, which was $400 (not thousands of dollars worth of merchandise). My problem was not the fact that I had to fill out paperwork; it was the fact that the salesperson was not clear on what was happening and then ended up suggesting an illegal means to which to get through it. I was there for 2 1/2 hours with no idea what was going on.

    The behavior demonstrated between the salesperson and her manager was completely unacceptable, and that's what made me leave the store and write this article. If you read some of the other comments above yours you will find many others who have had similar experiences to mine, as well as other employees who also warn using the store.

  23. TERRIBUSA Says:

    I have loved every purchase and every sales person that I have came across at conn's. LOOK PEOPLE YOUR CREDIT MUST NOT BE THAT GOOD IN THE FIRST PLACE. I HAVE HAD AN ACCOUNT WITH THEM OVER 3 YEARS AND HAVE HAD NO PROBLEMS. SO WHAT THEY HIT YOU LIKE VULCHERS WHEN YOU WALK IN…DO YOU KNOCK THE LOCAL CAR SALES MEN??? THAT DO THE SAME???THEY ARE ONLY DOING THEIR JOBS!
    WITH THE PUCHASES I HAVE MADE IT HAS HELPED ME NOT ONLY ESTABLISH BUT RAISE MY CREDIT SCORES WITH ON TIME PAYMENTS. LETS JUST SAY I WOULD GET LAUGHED AT TRYING TO GET CREDIT. ITS FUNNY BECAUSE ALOT OF YOUR COMPLAINTS ARE BASED ON YOUR PAYMENTS IF YOU CAN'T AFFORD IT DONT BUY IT. YOU ALL HAVE CHOICES IN LIFE CHOOSE YOUR PURCHASED WISELY AND DON'T LET A SALES MAN TALK YOU INTO SOMETHING YOU DONT NEED OR WANT. I HELD MY GROUND STAYED IN MY PRICE RANGE.

  24. TERRI Says:

    AMEN TO THAT..I AM A LOYAL CONNS CUSTOMER..I HAD A CREDIT SCORE WAY BELOW 500 AT FIRST….I HAD TO DAMM NEAR GIVE BLOOD TO OPEN A ACCOUNT..BUT IT WAS WELL WORTH IT…I AM HAPPY TO SAY I AM NOW WITH CCC ..AND CONNS HAS HELPED ME RAISE MY SCORES WITH ON TIME PAYMENTS******THESE PEOPLE ARE GRIPPING FOR THE WRONG REASONS..SURE YOU CAN GO TO RENT A CENTER OR AARONS, BUT THIS WILL NOT HELP YOUR CREDIT AT ALL! AND EVERYONE KEEPS TALKING ABOUT THE PRICES, IF YOUR SMART ENOUGH TO GET ON HERE GOOGLE SOME OF THE PRICES I GOT A 55″ TV TODAY A CONNS FOR $1400.00 THAT IS SELLING EVERYWHERE ELSE FOR $2500.00 SO IT'S UP TO YOU THE CONSUMER TO DO PRICE COMPARISON

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